Hat tip to PJMiller at Sola Dei Gloria.
Looks like the Interfaith Alliance has jumped into the war on incivility.For Immediate Release
October 21, 2009Clergy and Faith Leaders Call for Civility
Washington, DC – A group of prominent faith leaders brought together by Rev. Dr. C. Welton Gaddy, President of Interfaith Alliance has released an open letter to other religious leaders, politicians, and pundits calling for civility in public debate and to specifically refrain from using inappropriate references to the holocaust and Nazis. A copy of the letter along with its signers follows.
An open letter to religious leaders, politicians, pundits and the public:
In the last month, we have seen an alarming number of public figures use the Nazis and the Holocaust as metaphors in public debate on issues critical to this country. This development is but the most vile example of the disturbing language that has insinuated itself into our national dialogue. Examples of this divisive and ill-spirited rhetoric include:
-Richard Land, a leader and spokesperson in the Southern Baptist Convention
compared some of the proposed health care reforms to ”what the Nazis did.”
Actually, Land bestowed a “Joseph Mengele Award” on Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, the president’s chief health-care adviser. After strong criticism, Dr. Land apologized for his comments, though he offered no apology to Dr. Emanuel.-The Republican National Committee was asked to take down a link to a YouTube video parody where subtitles in a movie portraying Hitler were doctored to convey the impression that Hitler was criticizing the Democrats’ health care proposals.
-Fox News Host Glenn Beck compared the treatment of Fox News by the Obama Administration to the treatment of Jews during the Holocaust
-Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL) referred to the failure to reform the U.S. health care system as a “holocaust.” Grayson later apologized stating that he in no way meant to minimize the Holocaust.
The Holocaust was a tragic event in which the Nazis systematically murdered six million Jews. The Nazi regime that perpetrated this mass genocide was one of the most horrific in world history. There is no place in civil debate for the use of these types of metaphors. Perpetrators of such language harm rather than help both the integrity of the democratic process and the credibility of religious commentary.
We the undersigned faith leaders call on our colleagues in all religious communities as well as elected leaders, commentators, pundits and others engaged in public debate to refrain specifically from using inappropriate Nazi and Holocaust references and, generally, to help restore civility to our national dialogue.
Sincerely,
The Rev. Dr. C. Welton Gaddy
President, Interfaith Alliance
I’ve talked about this before, especially the cheapening of Nazi imagery. Seriously, people, is this what you want to do?
I have been an admirer of Dr. Land, and I’m repulsed by his “Mengele” comment. Dr. Mengele was a monster who performed vile experiments on human beings. Dr. Emanuel is a part of an effort to make health care available universally. One is free to disagree with Dr. Emanuel, but it hardly makes him worthy of comparison to Dr. Mengele.
Glenn Beck’s reference is patently absurd, and I don’t think any honest reader can defend it. Until and unless Pres. Obama orders killings of Fox News officials, staff, and collaborators, to make this comparison is so stupid as barely to need comment.
Rep. Grayson has apologized for his remark, but only for trivializing the Holocaust. Dr. Land, by the way, apologized to the Anti-Defamation League for the same thing. Neither has, to my knowledge, apologized to the people whom they compared to Nazis.
Seriously. It’s time for this to stop.






October 22, 2009 at 1:35 pm
It is way past time for this to stop. Disagreeing with one another is one thing, but stooping to this level is quite another. It helps not one iota to level this kind of rhetoric at each other. What a novel idea it would be if we actually discussed the issue, instead of shouting insults.
October 22, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Thanks, Larry!
Just about every day, I find myself shaking my head. I’ve actually tried to pull back from following as much commentary, and then more of this started breaking into NPR coverage.
This morning I heard the story about some columnist whom Rush Limbaugh apparently said should kill himself for environmental reasons. On the other hand, there was some comedian a few months ago who was joking about how funny it would be if Limbaugh died of liver disease (or something like that).
It’s just … wrong.
October 23, 2009 at 12:00 am
[...] Does Rick really think this, or is part of a political speech? Doesn’t it do harm to the move for civility? [...]
October 23, 2009 at 10:09 am
Just to play a bit of devils advocate as it were…
Emmanuel has in the past been open to eugenics and euthanasia. I imagine it is along these lines he was offered up the award. Perhaps I assume too much.
Although I disagree with the biased agenda driven use of imagery it is a more complex thing than some want to admit. Genocide is overused but is clearly where those that use it are going. The jewish world do not have wholesale license to the words holocaust,suffering or genocide. Although I find it over the top personally I can see where base rilers would use genocide as akin to denying healthcare especially life saving and expensive care.
I have nothing to offer on Beck. I will though say that the IFA letter is overplay to a different extreme imo. I offer this in no way as a defense to Nazis but the Nazis stood for more than killing jews. Although I don’t find myself naive much of the discourse that use them is actually aimed at socialist/fascist meanings. Surely we all should not forget the horrors of the Holocaust but we should also remind ourselves daily of what else the Nazis.Leninists,Islamists,Marxists etc. stood for and did too.
October 23, 2009 at 10:44 am
I agree that Stalinism is evil … but I’m going to have to make fun of a person I heard a couple weeks ago.
He was ranting and raving and said he’d been to Auschwitz, and he saw what Marxism did there.
Auschwitz was liberated by Soviet troops, actually. The jackass managed to find the one place in the world in which the arrival of Marxist forces WAS an improvement.
Therein is part of the problem — Socialism has a tremendous number of faces. From Hitler to Mussolini, through Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky, Mao Tse Tung, Deng Xiapeng, to Tony Blair and even Margaret Thatcher, who reduced but had no intent to dismantle the welfare state of the UK.
If universal health care is a Nazi policy, then would someone please explain Israel’s health care program to me?
To paint all Socialism as equivalent to Nazism is beyond absurd. An honest conversation about what’s right and wrong with current realities makes a lot more sense … since I think that most of us would agree that Canada and Australia are not evil states, yet they’ve had socialized health care programs for quite a while.
(Has anyone noticed that I haven’t posted on health care lately? There’s a good reason for that …)
“The jewish world do not have wholesale license to the words holocaust,suffering or genocide.”
Suffering, no. But the Holocaust, with the capital “H,” is a specific incident. And any time you use the word “holocaust,” you have to be aware of that. The word doesn’t exist in a vacuum.
As for “genocide,” as we digress, I’d agree. I believe that the term was coined in 1944, though, because a word was needed to describe what happened to the Jews and the Armenians. That does grant them a certain relationship to the word. Retroactively, of course, it should be applied to a great many people.
October 23, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Thanks for your thoughts, Wickle. I did not know you had a blog until I clicked on your profile over at Joel’s blog. nice touch.
More often than not, the fallacy known as reductio ad hitlerum is used against persons, “you are worse” than hitler in order to degrade someone else’s humanity and position. Trust me, it has been used against me and a group of my peers in a private meeting by a person who had tenure and power on a seminary faculty. That was a miserable day.
thanks again, Wickle!
October 23, 2009 at 10:58 pm
Greetings, Rod! Yes, I have a blog.
I can see why that would be a bad day, yes … I’ve been compared to Nazis, but mostly by people who are just cheapening the word.
I admit, I’m somewhat uptight about it. Even the “Soup Nazi” thing that everyone in the world thinks is funny except for me bothers me. I think that if we use the word as a joke, then we’re taking away its power.
Ah, well … thanks for coming by, and thanks for becoming my other follower on Facebook!
October 28, 2009 at 3:19 pm
The overuse/misuse of comparisons like this bugs me…it does cheapen and make light of the original meaning (“suicide” is another example). I listen to a local talk radio show, and they say that if you play the Nazi/Hitler card, you automatically lose the argument.
November 1, 2009 at 6:02 am
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