Rush Limbaugh vs. Integrity
March 10, 2008 — wickleSomeone stop me … I need to stop listening to Limbaugh at all. I only had his show on for a little while this afternoon, and felt the need to rebut his nonsense again.
A couple weeks ago I wrote about Limbaugh’s issue with hope, and today he was upset about people questioning his integrity. He has called for Republicans to vote in Democratic primaries in order to make sure that the Clinton vs. Obama race remains contentious. On air today, he was singing his own praises for causing chaos. What really disturbed me, though, was when he set out to define integrity.
It started with a call from “Terry in Sandy, Utah.” (Fair Warning: That link takes you to the transcript on Limbaugh’s site.)
Limbaugh does engage in his usual remarks, claiming that any caller who questions him or his methods must be lying — either in not really listening to him (in that Terry doesn’t remember Limbaugh endorsing Clinton) or not even really being a Republican (his comment about reading liberal blogs).
CALLER: — because I’ve always looked up to you and thought you were great. This one issue — I’ve never called before, I love listening — but it has absolutely disgusted me because we are better than that. That’s why I’m a Republican. That’s why I’ll never vote Democratic. They’re not better than that.
RUSH: Do you like losing?
CALLER: I like integrity — listen, here’s the key. You, sir, and I, sir, have only three or four things in our entire life that we have absolute 100% control of, and nobody else can control it for us. And one of those two or three things is integrity. Get the picture?
RUSH: Do you like losing?
CALLER: No. Absolutely not.
RUSH: Do you like the Democrats winning?
CALLER: I would sooner live in a country that the majority of the people that are my peers choose if it’s against what I want, because it’s our way. I will voice my opinion; I will always voice my opinion; I will always be on the Republican side –
RUSH: Yep.
CALLER: — but I will do it with integrity.
RUSH: Well, there’s a difference between you and me, then
Terry is the kind of person that we should all be — he will stand on his beliefs, he will vote his conscience, and expects everyone else to do the same. But he’s not out to monkey around with anyone else’s primaries. Terry is right — we have control over very few things, and one of them is our integrity. Note that Limbaugh dismisses questions of integrity with questions about winning and losing.
I’m not really going to get into Limbaugh’s gibberish about Democrats and Independents voting in Republican primaries. Whether Limbaugh likes it or not, there are Republicans who like John McCain. His attack on the NH primary, which is a semi-open primary, presents a clear example of his ability to speak without waiting for facts.
For one thing, his complaint isn’t based nearly as much in fact as he claims. To spend more time than necessary engaging with it only serves to validate the charge.
More importantly, Terry is right that that isn’t the point. Once upon a time, conservatism wasn’t just a collection of positions. It wasn’t just an economic ideal. It was based on the fundamental idea that there are those things which are right and those things which are wrong. We should do the former, and never the latter.
Limbaugh, however, goes on to explain his position:
RUSH: I do not think I am compromising my integrity here at all. Zilch, zero, nada. This is simply faking people out. This happens in all walks of life, get real. This happens in corporate America; it happens in universities. It happens everywhere on the line of succession at any business or company that you want to mention. It happens on the athletic field; it’s called gamesmanship. But the bottom line is this, it’s political warfare. This is not beanbag; it’s not civics 101. If we don’t watch it, we’re going to allow the Democrat Party to totally corrupt our party while we sit around with “integrity” and let it happen. You may want that to happen, but I don’t. Period.
Sigh …
Yes, this kind of thing does happen in all walks of life. People lie, they cheat, and they steal. They do whatever they can get away with, rather than what is right. People cheat on their wives and husbands while they’re on business trips, kids smoke in school restrooms, and use radar detectors to avoid getting caught speeding. Those all happen to be wrong.
Later, Limbaugh talked about the foundation of integrity. He defined that integrity is based on the rules. If you’re not breaking rules, then you’re not committing any violence against your integrity. I shook my head and sighed …
Actually, that means you’re not committing voter fraud. I’m convinced that there is a chasm between that behavior which is criminal and that behavior which shows integrity, and in there we find a wide variety of behavior. It’s perfectly legal, for example, to let the door go as you walk through, and hit the elderly lady with a bag of groceries. The fact that it isn’t illegal doesn’t make it appropriate. Legalism is following the rules. Integrity is a higher standard. It goes beyond merely following rules and doing what is right.
When Daily Kos was calling for Democrats in Michigan to vote in the Republican primary simply because the Democratic primary would not seat delegates, he was wrong. Limbaugh has stooped to the same level. As I said before, voting is an important and serious thing. It should not be done spitefully, and it should not be done simply to mess up someone else. No one should ever vote for a candidate s/he doesn’t like and doesn’t want to see win — and certainly not just because s/he thinks that the other party might be very unhappy with that person as a nominee.












March 11, 2008 at 12:49 am
For many of the reasons you outlined, I came out against Kos when he did this, so naturally I’m against Rush doing it as well. Just because other people do it doesn’t make it OK, of course. We’re 100% on the same page here.
I get a chance to listen to Rush either on my way to work or on my lunch break, and I swear the guy must devote the majority of his show debating (or perhaps I should say, bloviating) his own relevance, playing clips or reciting people in the media talking about him. I mean, is that his show now? Like, he says something controversial and acts like a childish blowhard, and then spends the rest of the time covering the reactions? That’s the “Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies”?
March 11, 2008 at 10:11 am
I don’t like Rush. I think his time has long passed.I agree that the callers concept of integrity is the superior one. As for an issue of integrity election related but not Rush related. The Mi. /Fl. do over. Do conservatives have a place in assuring the rules be it DNC rules are enforced ? Feel free to delete if that is to unrelated no hard feelings.
March 11, 2008 at 10:59 am
I agree with the caller. I think everyone should vote their conscience. If that means McCain (like my mother-in-law, my husband’s best friend), I say do it. If that means voting third party or not at all (me, husband, mom), we should follow our convictions. I think the problem is when people ditch their values or when their “god” becomes the Republican party. I am so through voting for the “lesser of two evils”. I will vote for someone who I agree with on my non-negotiables and no one else. McCain tramples on my non-negotiables. If he doesn’t trample on yours, vote for him.
March 11, 2008 at 1:19 pm
In2theFray - In terms of the DNC rules being enforced? I don’t really have so much to say about that, since I’m not a part of the group. It’s just about like me getting worried about the New England Patriots and the videotaping thing. I don’t follow football and don’t really care.
However … it’s an integrity problem for the whole party as the general election comes around. Clinton, clearly, lacks integrity (no, really!) because she agreed to a certain set of rules, and now she wants to change them because she didn’t win.
Calling someone on his/her lack of integrity is perfectly legit, I think. The same goes for the whole super-delegate issue.
Chen - I really need to give up listening to the show at all. He really does just spend all of his time talking about why people should listen to him. I can feel my IQ dropping as I listen.
Frances - Absolutely. I haven’t committed to a candidate yet. I might go with McCain, but I might go for Gene Amondson or any number of other people. I think I’m going to have to pick up the “Working the Field” series again as I look at third party candidates.
May 15, 2008 at 8:00 pm
I’ve been a fan of Rush for a long time. But I’m deeply suspicious of his real motives behind “Operation Chaos”. Then today he was lambasting McCain because McCain was calling for an end to the extreme partisanship that has come to characterize Washington. Rush argued that partisanship is democracy, and that we should not all just agree on everything all the time.
Either Rush has developed some Maoist proclivity for inciting conflict just for his personal entertainment, or he is hoping that such conflict (and a possible Clinton presidency) will be good for his ratings. Either way, he is no longer working towards good (or even sincere) ends. For the first time in memory, I turned him off.