Working the field, part VIII - Paul
September 29, 2007 — wickleRon Paul is a very interesting character. Since I make no secret of the fact that I am a Huckabee fan, it might come as a surprise that I admire Ron Paul tremendously. He is a true believer. He means what he says, and says what he means. He is not beholden to his party before his principles, and he doesn’t say what he thinks he needs to say in order to win votes.
Rather, he says what he needs to say to show his positions, and to try to convince people that they should believe what he believes. This, by the way, is what politicians should be doing.
Ron Paul is a physician, a ten-term Congressman from Texas, and a former Air Force officer — drafted during the Vietnam war. He was also the Libertarian Party’s candidate for President in 1988, and I can’t help but wonder if he wouldn’t have been a better choice than Bush or Dukakis in that race.
Ron Paul is a unique figure in the Republican field as it is. For one thing, he’s written and spoken extensively about everything he believes and thinks about the government, politics, and more. For another, he is the only serious Republican candidate who’s against the war in Iraq and who is willing to do something about it.
This, of course, led to the famous exchange between Mike Huckabee and Ron Paul in the GOP debate in New Hampshire. Perhaps it’s not surprising, but I guess it’s worth mentioning — Paul supporters and others who oppose the war think that Ron Paul won that exchange, while war supporters and Huckabee supporters (such as I am) think that Huckabee won it.
In truth, it comes down to which principles are involved. The two did well, and exchanged their ideas and reasons. Not empty slogans, but real ideas. This, by the way, is why Mike Huckabee and Ron Paul are cleaning up in debate results, straw polls, etc.. Ron Paul came in second in the Values Voter Debate results and the Palmetto Family Council straw poll. He has done amazingly well in debate polls, winning nearly all of them.
At this point, I have to point out yet another reason why I loathe Sean Hannity — his claim that Ron Paul’s supporters faked results in the debate voting. Hannity dislikes some of the Republican candidates, but doesn’t have the integrity to say so. So, he ignores them and puts down their chances of success.
Paul’s supporters argue that their candidate deserves more press time because of his connection with voters and the breadth of his support. He’s right.
The major media outlets chose front-runners early this year, and they chose Newt Gingrich, Fred Thompson, Mitt Romney, Rudy Giuliani, and John McCain. The fact that Thompson couldn’t be bothered to enter the race until this month, and Gingrich still hasn’t (and probably won’t) doesn’t matter. They had the name-recognition, so they got the coverage. Doesn’t that sound nice and responsible?
I think that it’s a perfectly-valid complaint among the “second-tier” candidates. I have thought the same thing about my candidate.
Ron Paul has a good collection of positions on issues, ones that conservatives have to respect. He really stands on small government, and he is a real strict constructionist when it comes to the Constitution.
Unlike most Libertarians, Paul is pro-life and does believe in the authority of government to prohibit abortion. He did vote for the partial-birth abortion ban, and against most expansions of stem cell research. His web site makes a case against Roe v. Wade as a bad reading of the Constitution, regardless of positions on abortion. While I differ with him on certain aspects of this, where I might wish he would be more aggressive, I look at Ron Paul’s rating from NARAL – they gave him a 0% in 2003, and generally identify him as having an “anti-choice” voting record.
You have got to admire that.
Ron Paul supports returning to gold-backed currency, and stands solidly on reducing the role of government so that it’s not involved in the market more than it should be. He wants to overhaul income taxes (and reduce them greatly, gradually to eliminate them) and eliminate the IRS. I’m not entirely certain what he proposes to collect revenue based on the site, but there are streams other than the income tax. His plan is to save so much money that we don’t need to collect income taxes.
He stands against the North American Union, the NAFTA superhighway, and the abuse of eminent domain. He supports the Second Amendment and opposes gun control strongly. I believe that he does a good job of honoring his commitment not to vote for anything that gives power to the government not explicitly granted by the Constitution. For those who still remember the Ninth and Tenth Amendments, this is a nice change.
In that spirit, he voted against the USAPATRIOT Act.
Ron Paul believes what he stands for. I admire him. While he is not my candidate, he is one of the few that I trust. He is a man of good character, and he stands on his principles.
Ultimately, the biggest problem I would have voting for Paul is Iraq. Oddly, he and I agree on much of that issue, but I can’t join him where he is.
The neoconservative agenda of aggressive action got us where we are in Iraq. We probably never should have gone into the country. And he’s right, we should have declared war if we were going to go.
The problem is, we’re there now. We removed the government that used to keep local forces in check. To leave now is simply to let chaos reign, which isn’t fair to the local Iraqis. Paul would have us leave because we never should have gone in. That’s fine, if we can travel in time and fix the errors of 2003. But since we can’t do that, we have to deal with the reality of today.












September 30, 2007 at 12:31 am
Hi there — nice article. Interestingly enough, I’m your mirror image.
While I’ve been a Ron Paul supporter for six months, prior to the New Hampshire debate, I liked Mike Huckabee as well. He was the ONLY other candidate among the Republicans who did not make me viscerally sick while listening to him speak, and he projects an earnest sincerity with his preacher’s articulate elegance.
But the New Hampshire debate exchange changed that, unfortunately. I fundamentally object to Huckabee’s analogy of Iraq as a broken trinket in a store: “You broke it, you buy it.” How many of our men and women must die before we’ve “bought” it? Is $1 trillion and over 3,000 not enough?
Shia and Sunni have been at each other’s throats for thousands of years. The unilateral oppression of Saddam’s regime kept open civil strife under wraps, and we — as foreign occupiers — have not been successful at coaxing a peaceful “democracy” out of these perennially warring factions. Who put Iraq’s borders on the map with these factions in the first place? Does the current chaos surprise you? Are you still shocked that everyone isn’t sitting around breaking bread over there?
And then Huckabee’s quote about honor. What perverse version of honor demands that we sacrifice innocent men and women to avoid admitting that we’ve made a mistake?
Finally, if you *don’t* believe we’ve made a mistake, then you’re among the 30% of Americans who think we should still be in Iraq. Which means that if Representative Paul does NOT get the Republican nomination, you should start preparing yourself, your family, and your financial assets for the next President Clinton.
If her recent policy statements are any indication, she will be less economically savvy than her husband:
http://bhday.wordpress.com/2007/09/28/how-to-know-youre-dealing-with-monopoly-money/
How’s the purchasing power of YOUR dollar lately? :)
September 30, 2007 at 5:47 am
Actually, I was against going to war over there in the first place, because I knew that the Bush administration was painfully inept in its planning — I think it was Richard Perle who said that we wouldn’t need to spend a long time on “nation-building,” and that the whole thing would be financed with Iraqi oil. In any case, the fact that we’re standing in the middle of a civil war was predictable and predicted.
And, yes, I know that Iraq’s borders were drawn more or less arbitrarily by the colonial powers. The nation should be split up, except that if we do that, Turkey will likely crush Kurdistan to prevent Turkish Kurds from getting any ideas, and we give Iran its own little buddy.
It’s a mess, and I don’t have any immediate plans to forgive W for it.
That being said, we’ve watched massacres in Rwanda and Darfur and not really done a blessed thing about it. I’m not quite ready to watch a bloodbath in Iraq, knowing that we made it happen.
We have to admit that we made a mistake, but then work our way out — which is going to take a lot more diplomatic talent than W has ever shown. We should leave the place better than when we went, rather than replacing a tyrant with chaos.
Anyway … thanks for the reply. I do agree with you about the other candidates. I want to have some measure of respect for someone else, but I’m pretty sure that I’m voting Constitution Party if they nominate anyone other than Paul or Huckabee.
September 30, 2007 at 11:16 am
I think we’re both reasonable people here, so I’ll ask a question…
Have you ever been involved in a mediation or arbitration? I have. It’s not particularly pleasant, but having been through the process, I can say that it works pretty well if the mediator is a neutral, respected, and disinterested third party.
How are we going to get these warring factions to work together from our current posture? How successful will a mediation be if the mediator is armed, killing people, being killed, and occupying territory while trying to bring “peace”? Such a mediator is not neutral, respected, nor (with our appetite for oil) disinterested.
The only hope we have to facilitate peace is to REMOVE our military presence. We can then encourage negotiations as diplomats instead of occupiers, emphasizing trade, economic growth, and self-determination. But ultimately the factions themselves must determine how they are going to live together.
We are ALREADY in a bloodbath over there. We need to be part of the solution, not part of the problem
I agree that the Republicans are a dead party without a return to the Constitution. In my opinion, while Huckabee is nice, thoughtful guy on most issues, I don’t see that he respects the Constitution as a true foundation for his political beliefs.
By the way, have you seen this?
http://www.covenantnews.com/ronpaul070721.htm
Have a blessed day!
BD
September 30, 2007 at 10:15 pm
Thanks for the link, BD. No, I hadn’t seen that statement. I knew Dr. Paul is a Baptist, but that about covers it. That was a good read. I wish I’d seen it when I wrote this post, actually. I would have linked to it.
Sigh … he had to mention Augustine’s just war theory, didn’t he … sigh … I’ve found that to be the most reasonable tool for determining whether we should get involved in conflicts.
Your mediation scenario is one perfectly reasonable approach to the future of Iraq. And, frankly, that might be the way to go.
The other possibility is that by removing our military presence, mediation becomes impossible because we do provide a measure of security and peacekeeping. I’m not sure that we’re ready to transition into the mediation role that you describe yet.
That being said … I keep being in minorities. I might be in the 30% (as you noted) that thinks we should stay, I was also in the 30-ish % that thought we shouldn’t go in the first place.
… especially not without a real declaration of war. I remain absolutely convinced that the War Powers Act is utterly un-Constitutional.
We’re in a mind-blowingly bad situation, and it’s because the President and Congress — mostly the Republicans, but certainly with help from the Democrats — failed to do their jobs properly. Dr. Paul is one of the few who did his job properly at that time. If we were having this conversation five years ago, I think we’d be on exactly the same side. And, frankly, Paul’s answer to Huckabee in NH that neoconservatives had hijacked foreign policy was dead on. The PNAC influence over the Bush administration is frightening.
And I say that not as some kind of conspiracy thing, but simply because PNAC’s stated positions are frightening and the idea that its people are in influential positions is scary.
In terms of Iraq, I think we have to weigh several considerations:
1) We don’t belong there. This includes the ultimate Constitutional question, the expense, the lives, the opportunity costs (in terms of resources for the “war on terror”), and everything else.
2) The possibility that leaving will put us in a better place to mediate, as you suggest.
3) The possibility that leaving will make things worse.
Ultimately, I’m not ready to gamble on (3) just yet. It’s an ethical problem, really, and one of relative probabilities. I guess I’m picking the least of the evils … or, rather, what I think will probably be the least of the evils. And while I’m not comfortable with the fact that I wouldn’t immediately reverse the violence done to the Constitution, it’s a question of how to weigh all of our concerns.
Having said that, the diplomatic incompetence of the current administration is possibly beyond mortal comprehension. We’re not currently doing anything to work our way out, because Bush is too busy saying that we need victory … though he has no idea what that means, how to make it happen, or what he needs to do to get there.
November 1, 2007 at 12:06 pm
There are more comments relevant to this discussion under the “Torture” post:
http://1truebeliever.wordpress.com/2007/10/05/torture/
November 21, 2007 at 1:22 am
Nice write up on Paul. I’m a supporter of Paul, but my second choice would be Huckabee. I’m glad the two of them are showing the “top tier” candidates for what they are- buffoons who have no core and no business leading a country full of people they don’t respect. I’m a bit disappointed w/Huckabee’s stance on medical marijuana and civil unions. Hopefully he understands that both of these issues belong at the state level, not federal.